Karma. (2)


In the East the symbol of wisdom.

Do you attribute occurrences in your life to karma and, if so, is the attribution to the “good” or “bad” occurrences or both?

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About Ian Gardner

Ian Gardner was born on the 20th February 1934 in Sri Lanka, then Ceylon, and christened Basil Ian Gunewardene. He was born two months prematurely and nearly died five times in his first two months. He moved to Australia in September 1969 where he changed his surname to Gardner. From childhood he had an enquiring mind and an innate interest in the supernatural. Since 1986, nineteen years of meditation, "searching within", reading and revelations have culminated in this free book which has been nine years in the making. Further writings followed and all his writings are available to all on the Internet free of charge. There is more information in the preface of the book.
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6 Responses to Karma. (2)

  1. Ian Gardner says:

    Sorry, bert, ” . . .being in the right place at the right time is also a cause.” is incorrect – it is the RESULT of something. As you say, “We . . . . . create conditions . . .” etc.
    As for the rest of what you say, the enquiring mind will find the answers – in full, in time.
    Keep it up!

    • bert0001 says:

      you are correct, … and any result of something becomes a cause of something to. The arrow of logic never stops … but logic only applies to the mental level …

  2. bert0001 says:

    … please define karma ….

    • Ian Gardner says:

      In terms of the context of the word in the question posed one needs to know what it means “loosely” or commonly (if such can apply) because it is with this in mind that it is so often used. Usually, I suppose, it simply means “cause”. For example a person attributes their meeting with another to “karma”. In view of your question, bert, it seems that you do not attribute things to karma so your answer would be “No”.
      Now, if you really want to know what karma is the only way to find out its fullest meaning is to read about it and you can do this by searching* the first two blogs here plus the book The Milk Is White but this is, obviously, not the only source.
      * As I so often say, searching in this way does not give the seeker an in depth knowledge of the meaning of anything: such knowledge only comes from reading about something in context.

      • bert0001 says:

        If it means simply cause, then being in the right place at the right time is also a cause. Then, yes could be my answer. We seem to create conditions that would enable us to meet people who think like us. We wouldn’t understand those too high above and those too low we would probably despise because of our arrogance.
        Whether this applies to natural disasters, illness or disease is not so clear to me. We have some hand in getting ill and getting cured, but we have no hand in meeting disaster. If a black hole would happen to pass our world, then such is happening because of the Newtonian laws, and can be calculated millions of years in advance, long before the existence of humanity. It will be difficult to explain such a disaster as a consequence of our deeds, since this death-star would be on track long before we even came into existence.

        The same can be said about man made disaster. We can only on a very limited level influence what somebody else is going to do to us or the world we live in.

        To extend cause to what happened in a life before this one, we first need to have serious proof of a life before this one. I do not have such proof right now in my life. Whatever (would) happen(s) to our ‘being’ between lives does preserve nothing on the physical, emotional or mental level. Although i have indications that there is more than these 3 levels, i’ve not been able to tap into this levels at will, neither did the few experiences on this level give me an indication of self-existence before or after this life. This doesn’t disprove anything, but i can only admit that i just don’t know, and feel too ignorant to believe in concepts going even one step further.

        Moreover, i see so often how the concept of karma is abused by so many human beings and their societies, that i start getting afraid of even thinking about it.
        It is obvious that we are not born equally, but we should be born with equal rights. To extend our inaptitudes and bad luck to stupidities in a life before this one is not only cruel, but is has also become a means by the upper class to continue to be in control. This is not different in the USA as it is in India, or Europe.

        So my answer to your question would be: “i don’t know whether karma exists, hence i can not use this concept to attribute anything that happens in my life to it”, which can be summarized to a simple “no”.

        PS: There is a side track to all this thinking …
        Why do we tend to be angry for man made disaster, like a bush fire lit by a cigarette, and less angry or even accepting to natural disaster, like a bush fire lit by lightning.

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